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Post by ultrapro Wed May 28, 2014 7:11 am

Do whatever u want but i want to have a possibility to play for green peasant.

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Post by vladimir3388 Thu May 29, 2014 1:25 pm

How do you like new Russian jersey? rabbit 
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Post by GaDo1 Thu May 29, 2014 1:45 pm

Woaaaah, siiiick ! :O
Good job, vlad!!

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Post by Dafling Thu May 29, 2014 6:00 pm

Download 7.47b0.7 - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=92700570749908273149

Fixes:
-old ball by default, "-ball" mode to change ball model back and forth
-fixed a couple of bugs with switch

New features:
-Russia jerseys
-easy mode with C goals, and increased ball owner move speed (intended for newcomers)
-reduced music volume when goal is scored, so that "golazos" could be clearly heard Smile

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Post by ShineXXX Thu May 29, 2014 10:52 pm

heyho

i browsed the whole youtube, and here are the really best goal shouts i found. I hope 18 different sounds are enough ^_^ just check them and take the one you like the most
http://www.file-upload.net/download-8975742/Goal-Sounds.rar.html

and for stadium atmosphere sounds like chanting, oh-ing etc. check this youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZqf1LUAfW0
you can do it like me and download the whole audio from "listentoyoutube(dot)com" and cut it afterwards
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Post by vladimir3388 Fri May 30, 2014 12:22 pm

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Post by GaDo1 Fri May 30, 2014 2:16 pm

Haha, good job mate!! Shirt looks great! Very Happy It's not just close enough, it's perfect!

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Post by ShineXXX Fri May 30, 2014 9:51 pm

GaDo1 wrote:Haha, good job mate!! Shirt looks great! :DIt's not just close enough, it's perfect!

i agree ^_^ nicely done, dude Smile
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Post by Dafling Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:08 am

7.47c0.2 - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=00889293416453047998

Features:
-national flags on scoreboard
-Spain t-shirts
-2 new goal chants ("GOOOOOL!")

-nocurve mode
-curve angle reduced to 20 from 30 degrees
-shorten command/mode which reduces match duration by 4 minutes (can be reused)

-easy mode with the following gameplay mods:
*C goals allowed
*Keeper reaction time 2x slower (like in old versions)
*Ball owner speed penalty is 50% less
*Curve by default
*In public versions default half duration is 7.5 minutes (not 10)

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Post by Dafling Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:29 am

Ok now we have to be thinking of 2 things
-finishing this version (finding bugs and fixing them, maybe adding some last-minute changes)
-advertising/promoting/spreading the "FIFA World Cup 2014" version

What features could still be added?
*the remaining nation kits (england as a top priority, then argentina/france)
*maybe a banner with "Clan FOOT" on it
*our coordinates on loadscreen ("Clan FOOT, Northrend, <forum URL>") - graphical or plain text?
*DISBTN icon for curve Smile
*Update F9 chapters - "Community" and "Gameplay tips" (perhaps rename it to "First time player? Press here" for quick newbie tips)

The advertising thing is pretty big, but here are 3 main aspects of it, imo:
- An attractive overview of the game + community info (Where to find us, how to play with us)
- Some cool screenshots (we've got a lot to show off with this version - kits, nation voting at start, loadscreen, end-game stats, etc)
- Post the final version to the most popular map-hosting websites (we need a list!)

Reply quick, we don't have much time!

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Post by Weeble Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:25 pm

Well, I'm gonna keep it really simple, this is what I would feel would be best for the community, present players and future. These are the changes to be made from the latest version:

Warcaft Soccer FIFA World Cup 2014 - easy version

- Add remaining kits
- National flags on scoreboard
- Mention Clan FOOT, Northrend (Europe) and forum link (warcraftsoccereu.forumotion.com) on loading screen and map description
- xv mode default
- Curve DEFAULT
- C goals allowed
- Keeper reaction time 2x slower, like in previous versions
- Ball owner speed penalty 50% less
- 5 min per half default

Warcaft Soccer FIFA World Cup 2014 - hard version

- Add remaining kits
- National flags on scoreboard
- Mention Clan FOOT, Northrend (Europe) and forum link (warcraftsoccereu.forumotion.com) on loading screen and map description
- xv mode default
- NO CURVE
- 10 min default

Upload only the easy version to map sites, link my latest video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9ptUFC9F7s)

This way, I have weeded out the bad, and kept the good. I'm not going to convince you of why because I have done that many times. So I will only say this: if these changes were implemented this exact way I think most players would be pleased, as opposed to the current situation. If not, I feel this community will never reach its full potential which is a real shame after all the positive progress that has been achieved so far. Therefore, the advice is there and only you have the power to do what's best or you can do what you personally feel is best. Whether you do this or not will probably decide the future of this community. Good day.


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Post by Dafling Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:24 am

Hey, just wanted to mention that all these last-minute changes are optional. We don't have to make the banner thing, or the loadscreen with clan foot on it (if someone's, that would be shine's job).

And I've noticed about jerseys that they are excessively detailed. Yes, excessively. It's great, and fantastic job vlad, but people won't be able to appreciate all the details on jerseys, because the game camera is just so far away from peasants/peons. In order to see the details, you have to zoom all your way in, which is only possible in -train mode, not in normal games. Therefore my advice would be: avoid unnecessary detail for the remaining jerseys (england/portugal, and maybe argentina/france). That would greatly reduce the file size and moreover ease your job, right?

Btw, if we can't make argentina and france jerseys on time, it's alright, we can scrap them, because they can be safely removed from the voting. They are already "random" nations, "competing" for a button with netherlands/italy.

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Post by vladimir3388 Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:32 am

The only high detailed thing in those kits are crest textures with resolutions of 128x128 pixels. Next lower available resolution is 64x64, which is used for icons and is really too low to use for anything else. The only thing that would be easier to me if I used lower details is shorter time to google out images where I took crests from.
So, lower details wouldn't be able to reduce more than 60 kB per jersey, considering every jersey has 2 additional textures which take around 40 kB each instead of 10

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Post by AlexWarPro Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:11 pm

A few suggestions about the comfort of the game:

1. Key Space - fix the camera on the player.
People often flies the camera and at this point you need to quickly point the camera at your player to continue playing. Space key will greatly facilitate this task!

2. Remove the possibility of losing control of the player.
Even though it rare in the game, but agree accidentally pressing the left mouse button on the player to stranger can lead to loss of control of your player and spoil the game time!
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Post by ShineXXX Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:45 pm

Still open questions to me:

1.
Morgan wrote:...loadscreen with clan foot on it (if someone's, that would be shine's job)
- What do you mean? What else shall i add? On the loading screen there it already says "Presented by clan KICK" and theres also the link of our forum. I think thats all we need.
2. I uploaded many golazo sounds here. Those are 18 different sound. Morgan added the sounds goal1 and goal6. But if you think, there should be more or different golazo sounds - then download them and post your favorites!
3.
Shine wrote:and for stadium atmosphere sounds like chanting, oh-ing etc. check this youtube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZqf1LUAfW0
To add more atmosphere sounds to the map, could be still optional changes.  
4.The brazuca-ball has still not this kind of tail. I would recommend to add it for people, who want to play with da brazuca.
5.Whats about the "fence"-idea?
Shine wrote:...some kind of fence around the pitch, so that we can put some units behind as spectators
If you check page 3, vlad has already made a model for it.
Shine wrote:moreover you should check > this warcraft soccer version < for inspiration. You will already see some kind of fence around with spectators behind it, also wearing jerseys
That Version was why i got this idea.
Then we had morgans reply:
Morgan wrote:How about bring back banners? ;)they will act as fence ...
But as i said afterwards:
Shine wrote:its not really around the pitch, they are only behind the goal where nobody looks at anyway. So maybe we should really put them "around" the pitch^^
Shine wrote:...its not really around the pitch, they are only behind the goal where nobody looks at anyway. So maybe we should really put them "around" the pitch^^
SO what are we going to do about this topic? What do the other people think?
6.Vlad made a model for the worldcup trophy (check earlier pages)
Vlad wrote:We should use it somehow, maybe a player with the best score should run with it in his hand around the map at the end of game?
Shine wrote:cool idea. Yes, lets give it the best player of the winner team at the end including a "level up" animation maybe
This could also be an optional change.
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Post by C00LED Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:55 am

So adding pointless features that I will never care about because my sound is always off is higher ranking than simplifying the game?

Bring on the imba goalies and offsides penalties and then we can talk.

<3 C00LIO <3

Edit: I'm not asking for a whole lot (the offsides is kind of a joke but its still an idea). The imba goalies can honestly just step it up a notch and be able to kick the ball outside of the goal so clears and vz's can actually be defended instead of abused.
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Post by vladimir3388 Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:54 am

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Post by ultrapro Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:57 am

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Post by ShineXXX Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:33 pm

Awesome vlad, just awesome!  cheers 

QUESTION @ ALL:
Which type of stadium-model would you prefer for the map? Check this link: https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/search.html?backendClass=entity&q=stadium

@ Cooled:
This is the world cup version. Of course we will have to make it make it as attractive as possible which also includes cool sounds. We wanna advertise the game! We can discuss about good gameplay features (if you have ideas) later on for our future private versions.
C00LED wrote:So adding pointless features that I will never care about because my sound is always off is higher ranking than simplifying the game?
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Post by Dafling Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:33 am

Download 7.47c0.4 - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=38510832582750994526

Features:
-Added all remaining nation kits (England, Portugal, Argentina, France)
-Brazuca ball: added tail, fixed ball's height, so now it should feel very much like the old ball (enable by -ball command)
-New loading screen with graphical hotkeys info (by shine)
-hints command, which displays a gameplay hint every 90 seconds

Everyone, don't forget to thank Vladimir for his magnificent jerseys/t-shirts, a feature that we've been craving for since many years ago. Hooray!


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Post by Dafling Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:59 am

FIFA World Cup 2014 (beta) - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=70969611133418684636

Features:
-based on 7.47c0.4
-5 buttons in nation voting dialog, so all 10 countries are represented
-7.5 mins per half
-C goals allowed
-Inferior keeper AI (similar to pre-7.44 versions, with easy V+Z goals)
-Having ball doesn't slow you down too much
-Curve by default

Upload this version to the bot too, please.

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Post by ultrapro Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:46 pm


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Post by ShineXXX Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:46 pm

Dafling wrote:FIFA World Cup 2014 (beta) - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=70969611133418684636

Features:
-based on 7.47c0.4
-5 buttons in nation voting dialog, so all 10 countries are represented
-7.5 mins per half
-C goals allowed
-Inferior keeper AI (similar to pre-7.44 versions, with easy V+Z goals)
-Having ball doesn't slow you down too much
-Curve by default

1. Are all these features by default in the official version? Is there at least a way to deactivate it, so you can also play 10min, no cgoals, no curve, normal keepers and normal speed having the ball?
Actually i would prefer that the gameplay stays as normal as it was usually, and that the mentioned features will only be enabled by the -easy mode.

2. I think we should also change this picture ingame:
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why dont we take this one instead? Or do i have to create something new instead?
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3. I had the idea, that we change the message when someone scores a goal. It would be cool if it said "Bastian Schweinsteiger scored a goal" instead of "ShineXXX scored a goal". Can you do that? So that it always shows the player names instead of the account names?

4. In Englands Team there is still Theo Walcott who isnt participating in the world cup. Also Montolivo (Italy, im not sure if hes in your list) and Reus (Germany, injured) wont participate.
My Suggestions for the replacement: Take Jack Wilshere (if hes not in the list already) or Phil Jagielka for England (except weeble/verve/magics want someone else), take Thiago Motta or Ciro Immobile for Italy (if montolivo was in your list, and except vegekou thinks someone else was better) and take Lukas Podolski instead of Marco Reus, please.

btw have you also checked that there is no Strootman in the netherlands team? He also wont play. If you still havent removed him, take Nigel de Jong or Bruno Martins Indi, please.


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Post by vladimir3388 Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:29 pm

That one is a really bad idea. Before stadium from version 7.45 I was adapting some Red Bull Arena model and its canopies were blocking the pitch.

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Post by ultrapro Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:42 pm

@vladimir
https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=e1ffd34bf2fb07c79ae9d41fd13e06e1
I think it's the most suitable if it will be made with bright colors (would look like lego). Also btw. to make fun can u make head coach dancing when the team scores? This would be rly :{)

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