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Post by ultrapro Mon May 19, 2014 3:42 pm

Can u make them thinner if possible? they look like boxers or doters than football players.

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Post by vladimir3388 Mon May 19, 2014 6:17 pm

You're right, they don't look like football players, but more like peasants? Very Happy

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Post by ShineXXX Mon May 19, 2014 7:10 pm

my comments:

Changes:
-new loading screen - I LIKE
-german and dutch t-shirts - I LIKE
-cheers and chants when goal is scored - LIKE, but sometimes you hear only the golazo shout and sometimes your hear only the cheering sound. I think its good to if the two different golazo shouts take turns, but then we should have this commentator on each goal. So either we delete that "cheering" sound, also because in the "golazo shout" you can also hear cheering crowd, or we put the "cheering sound" on each goal while also the "golazo shout" is getting played.
-banners around the pitch - LIKE, although its not really around the pitch, they are only behind the goal where nobody looks at anyway. So maybe we should really put them "around" the pitch^^ which means also on the sides.
-2 new nations: England and Italy - LIKE

Some issues/bugs:
-ger and dutch shirts are missing some elements (eg. white lion logo for netherlands) - yea i noticed it. But it didnt seem very bad. But if its fixable, fix it.
-for some reason, map logo doesn't show up at epicwar, as seen in this upload http://www.epicwar.com/maps/242988/ - thats strange and not very practical :/
-cheer sound ends a bit too abruptly - Yes it does. But as i said we maybe dont even need it.

Some features that morgan didn't do yet:
-Brazuca ball - Add it as soon as possible, please ^_^
-Whistles - i think those whistle sounds of the referee would fit. Do you still have them somewhere?
-Background song (I need an mp3 file)
Which song would you prefer more?
Nr. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h22SfQZl70 - download link: http://www.file-upload.net/download-8933508/FIFA-World-Cup-Brazil-2014-Song.mp3.html
Nr. 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSUwGM38dP8 - download link: http://www.file-upload.net/download-8933513/We-Are-One-_OLE-OLA_--The-Official-2014-Brasil----Jennifer-Lopez---Pitbull-ft-Claudia-Leitte.mp3.html
Nr. 3 (still my favorite): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmnBCbqsrL8 - download link: http://www.file-upload.net/download-8933497/Bellini---Samba-De-Janeiro--HQ-Audio-.mp3.html
-Unique names for all players - they can overlap - No way to fix it?
-banners with text/logos like "CLAN FOOT", "FIFA 2014", "COCA COLA" etc - doesnt have high priority anyway.

@ ultra: What do you mean? Its not the jerseys which make em fat. Those peasants are just naturally fat xD so yea. Its all fine, vlad ;D
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Post by vladimir3388 Tue May 20, 2014 8:32 am

Checked the map and noticed you did import war3mapMap picture after all, but it's tga not blp and that's the reason why epicwar didn't show it.

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Post by ultrapro Tue May 20, 2014 1:32 pm

They look like hockey players even though peasants do too Very Happy If it's possible, make 'em thinner.

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Post by ultrapro Wed May 21, 2014 2:50 pm

is it possible to change zoom so that opponent gates are in front and my behind?

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Post by ShineXXX Thu May 22, 2014 8:52 pm

i forgot to mention that the GOLAZOO sound seems too quiet. Can you make it louder anyhow, morgan?

btw vlad says you shall check your private messages.
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Post by vladimir3388 Thu May 22, 2014 9:33 pm

How you like this bullshit? Very Happy
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We should use it somehow, maybe a player with the best score should run with it in his hand around the map at the end of game? Very Happy

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Post by ShineXXX Thu May 22, 2014 9:46 pm

cool idea Very Happy yes, lets give it the best player of the winner team at the end including a "level up" animation maybe
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Post by vladimir3388 Fri May 23, 2014 1:30 pm

Brasil jersey is done:
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Would be nice if you could tell me which jerseys you want for which team.
We should probably use the alternate jersey for some countries to avoid the same jersey colors in single game.
Here's the list of all jerseys with previews:
http://www.tsmplug.com/football/kits/world-cup-2014-shirts/

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Post by ultrapro Fri May 23, 2014 1:53 pm

Spoiler:

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Post by vladimir3388 Fri May 23, 2014 1:56 pm

What kind of indicators?

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Post by vladimir3388 Fri May 23, 2014 2:12 pm

An idea just came to me. Thought it would be lame for entire team to look exactly the same, because it would be confusing, but making player color all over the jersey doesn't make any sense. However, while making those jerseys I've always had hard time to pick the right color for shoes because they're not the part of jersey, so they should be colored in matching player's color.

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Post by vladimir3388 Sat May 24, 2014 3:29 pm

So, which jerseys do I make for Russia, Portugal and Spain?
All of those 3 primary jerseys are red, so it won't be good if 2 red jerseys are used in a single game...
We should probably take secondary for Spain, because there are not many black jerseys.
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Post by GaDo1 Sat May 24, 2014 5:44 pm

I would suggest Russia = White, Portugal = Red, Spain = Black.
Isn't there another tone of red? Because, since Portugal + Spain are on the same side, we won't see 2 teams with red shirts, so you could try make different tones. Spain's trademark shirts are red, but if you can't do the previous one, make Spain wear black, imo.


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Post by vladimir3388 Sat May 24, 2014 7:03 pm

OK then is this how will it be?

Peasants:
- Germany - White with big red pattern on chest
- Russia - White with blue pattern on shoulders
- Netherlands - Simply orange Smile
- England - White
Peons:
- Spain - Red/Black
- Portugal - Red
- Brasil - Yellow
- Italy - Blue

Looks like after using secondary Russian jersey all problems are solved, since white color dominates in peasant's team and red in peon's team,
so we can take red color for Spain as well.
However, there are so many Russians playing this map, and this might make them be not so happy! Very Happy
So if they want red jersey, they'll have to be moved to peon team, which might make them even more unhappy! Very Happy
It would be the best if Ultrapro asked asked his Garena clan and maybe we should hear Morgan's opinion, because he's the one who imports the models in
the map and comes from Russia. Smile

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Post by ultrapro Sat May 24, 2014 7:53 pm

My favourite SPAIN MUST BE RED!!!

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Post by ShineXXX Sun May 25, 2014 1:13 pm

i also think spain must be red. Its too classic. I dont care about russia. I would also suggest to take their white jersey so we dont have to switch the teams. But yea, we should at least hear the opinion of alexwarpro, ultrapro and morgan at first.
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Post by Dafling Mon May 26, 2014 7:39 am

Download 7.47b0.6 - http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=97827878295189250341

Features:
- world cup 2014 theme as background song
- Brazil, Italy jerseys
- brazuca ball
- 2 new nations: Argentina and France
- whistle sounds at the end of match
- new cameras around the pitch

Issues/bugs fixed:
- unique names for all players
- fixed german and dutch jerseys
- upped volume of "golazo" sounds
- cheer sound ends more smoothly

A bit of commentary.
**Background song is 2 MB, and even that was achieved by lowering its quality. It may also lag the game a little bit. Hope you like it Wink
**Because I have set a "mental limit" of 4 nations for the dialog at start, I made Argentina and Netherlands choice (France and italy for peons) randomized, so there is 50 % chance of argentina button and 50 % of netherlands. Other nations for peasants are fixed at the moment (ger,eng,rus)
**To be honest, I'm not too fond of brazuca ball idea, because it may feel like interfering in gameplay. But anyway, tell me what you think.
**We need more "golazo"-type chants, but not only in spanish, we could also use epic english commentators ("Fantastic goal!"), or german/italian etc

PS. We need more types of cheers, such as "oh-ing" (wow-ing) if for "close call" situations, eg. when ball hits crossbar/post or misses the goal by only a few centimeters. Then, "applause" for when you manage to come out of a difficult game situation, make an ingenious move (eg. a good pass), etc. Maybe "boo-ing" when you clearly waste time or don't want to take risks.

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Post by ShineXXX Tue May 27, 2014 6:35 pm

Good job, morgan! Its nice to see the progress on this map. Its is getting better and better Smile

My comments:

Features:
- world cup 2014 theme as background song - Nice Smile
- Brazil, Italy jerseys - Nice Smile
- brazuca ball - Nice, but maybe we need a kind of a tail like the old ball also has.
- 2 new nations: Argentina and France - Good.
- whistle sounds at the end of match - Good.
- new cameras around the pitch - Good although i actually didnt really notice them^^

Issues/bugs fixed:
- unique names for all players - Nice Smile
- fixed german and dutch jerseys - Nice Smile
- upped volume of "golazo" sounds - Nice Smile
- cheer sound ends more smoothly - Good.

A bit of commentary.
**Background song is 2 MB - Seems ok for me. And i got no laggs. But if its possible we should maybe try to lower the file size still a lil more.
**"mental limit" of 4 nations... - Got no Problem with that.
...not too fond of brazuca ball idea... - For me personally its no big deal, it doesnt feel differently to me. It just looks differently. But maybe we could add a mode called something like "-ball" in order to play with the original ball so everyone will be ok.
We need more "golazo"-type chants, not only in spanish & more types of cheers etc. - Thats a perfect idea! We should all look for some good commentarys and sound and post them Smile

A bug we found out: We chose Germany, and when we switched a player from peon, he became a peasant with a netherlands jersey. Another bug: Krym and ultra switched and afterwards the shoes/feet of krym were missing.


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Post by GaDo1 Tue May 27, 2014 7:45 pm

Suggestions!

- Remove curve as default. (It's more like a fun mode/thing and is impacting the gameplay.)
- Add a tail to the new ball, or reset to the old ball. (At the moment, it looks like we are playing with a ball of stone.)

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Post by Weeble Tue May 27, 2014 7:47 pm

For the perfect version imo: change back to old ball (current one looks like a stone), add kits to all teams (to avoid same colour players from different teams), keep the music, and get rid of curve button (gameplay changes not needed)!

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Post by vladimir3388 Tue May 27, 2014 8:34 pm

[quote=Another bug: Krym and ultra switched and afterwards the shoes/feet of krym were missing.[/quote]
WTF Morgan, how possibly could anything like that happen? lol!


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Post by ultrapro Tue May 27, 2014 9:02 pm

Leave swap untouched!!!
make brazuca larger so morgan wont need to scale it Mad (3x at least)

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Post by vladimir3388 Tue May 27, 2014 10:48 pm

Actually I made brazuca twice bigger than it's supposed to be and told Morgan to use scale of 0.5 to reduce its size twice.
Anyway, I'm sure he will fix team swapping issues in no time. He probably forgot about swapping and didn't adapt new stuff with it. Programming is like traveling back through time, it's really hard to figure out what you can ruin by changing even the smallest thing. Smile
That's why many testers are needed for developing any game...

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