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Newcomers' Problem(READ!)

Post by ultrapro on Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:18 am

Hello there.
All of you know that its hard to find people who like warcraft soccer. But how to make them developing without losing interest? Its halfly solved with russian-speaking players, but we should decide what to do with others.
Clans gol and foot wont encourage them. Correct me if im wrong, but playing with pros wont develope and make them enthusiastic.
You are welcome to write your opinion. I ask you not to pretend muted in this topic, but in he same time not to spam. Imgine that this topic is warcraft soccer life indicator.


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Re: Newcomers' Problem(READ!)

Post by ultrapro on Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:23 am

Apparently its needed to choose trainers and make special surrounding.

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Re: Newcomers' Problem(READ!)

Post by Dafling on Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:46 am

Making guides (also video guides) that are aimed at newcomers.


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Re: Newcomers' Problem(READ!)

Post by ultrapro on Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:46 pm

Guides are good as accelerators, but without experience there is nothing to accelerate. You can't, for example, learn reflexes without practise.

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Re: Newcomers' Problem(READ!)

Post by Weeble on Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:56 pm

I've said it before but I really think a wiki would be useful for new players especially since you could include videos/pictures along with a description. Imagine a new player typing in ''x'' ''v' ''xv'' ''vz'' etc and within a click of a button they can see what it is / how to use it. Anything in soccer they're curious about or need help with they can search instantly. Maybe this could spark an interest to improve?

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Re: Newcomers' Problem(READ!)

Post by ultrapro on Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:03 pm

Again, its needed some practise. Wikis, videos, guides... are useless without practise. Noobs need special surrounding or trainer who will tell mistakes.. I dunno so offer to discuss it. We need to generate the idea which will help us to create a system where even comlete lazybone will enjoy and develope.

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Re: Newcomers' Problem(READ!)

Post by Weeble on Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:57 pm

New players are welcome to play games against each other if that's what they want. This may ease them into playing with pros but it's really up to them to do it. We can offer them everything so they can help themselves (videos, guides etc) so they can learn at their own pace. But that's really all we can do, the rest is up to them.

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Re: Newcomers' Problem(READ!)

Post by C00LED on Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:07 am

I'd have to agree with Ultra to an extent of practice is the best key to anything. If a player is literally coming in blind to the game, no guide will have any effect on them. It literally just tells them what each move does, which is built into the game tooltip already. Hell even VZ is put into the damn V tooltip. Everything they could know from a guide is in the game as a tooltip/options/everywhere.

But it wouldn't be a bad idea at all to have a guide anyways. You still have people who don't read the moves tooltip, just the name of the move and expect to become a god instantly. The ability to pick up how to play this game has gone up because of the simplicity we have made it become. We have dumbed the game down to an extent where anyone can learn to play in 5 games or less.

The delay issue is not really a factor anymore since the bot. So if they get any delay, it's because they are frustrated. Trust me, that's all it is. Not including them in "pro" games is a bad choice if you want them to learn fast. Just ask yourself this question. This question will decide how hardcore you are. When you want to start a new game, do you want to start at beginner and be a noob the whole time, or go straight to expert and learn how to make instantaneous movements. If you don't challenge yourself at first you will get bored easily.

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Re: Newcomers' Problem(READ!)

Post by ultrapro on Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:08 pm

If you are newbie, you should read tips. If you are quite advanced, you should play pro games. But while you are something in the mid... tips are helpless and pro games are boring, C00LED. So people stuck on "newbie" stage. Guides are helpful, but they need some noob games. You are welcome to reply.

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Re: Newcomers' Problem(READ!)

Post by C00LED on Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:31 am


What are you even saying...


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Re: Newcomers' Problem(READ!)

Post by ultrapro on Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:47 pm

-.-

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Re: Newcomers' Problem(READ!)

Post by ShineXXX on Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:23 pm

if you want i could create little video sequences of moves like x, v, c, z, vz, vx, xvx, xvz etc. which we use in accordant guides...

I imagine it like having a small explicative text and under it the accordant video sequence.

Its better than nothing for the beginning.

A different idea which once was discussed rather marginally was to create tournaments/leagues for noobs/low-pros only. But all such stuff requires at least 1 person who can regulary organize and manage it.

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Re: Newcomers' Problem(READ!)

Post by GaDo1 on Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:57 pm

Creating competition for noobs/low-pros won't be a huge deal, we need their attendance at those competitions. That's what we should focus on.. Increasing their activity within the game itself is the main issue and how to fix that is still a mystery, since no one can come up with a reasonable solution.
They don't have anything to stay for, that's why most of them leave. Remember that many of the newcomers might just be people who want to play casually, so we can't expect them to be online everyday, but that's just the thing, as once they come online, we are not.

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Re: Newcomers' Problem(READ!)

Post by ultrapro on Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:43 pm

Shine, you should discuss it with verve :X

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Re: Newcomers' Problem(READ!)

Post by ultrapro on Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:13 pm

Well, GaDo1 has created a group in GArena. If you recruit some1, you can offer newcomer to join one of the following communities:
RusFootball Clan:
http://wariii-soccer.ucoz.ru/index/gruppa_v_garena/0-8 conditions: must be active, speak russian fluently.
Group - EU:
                    NAME: Warcraft Soccer EU
                    ID:      351424
Hope that decision is temporary and we will invent something better.

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